Fine Fall Out Removal

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Fine Fall Out Removal

Postby jsf721 » Thu 02 Sep, 2021 15:46

I got a ton of leaves and pine needles in my pool from the storms.

I added Orenda PR10000 to remove the high phosphates. It worked but the max dose leaves alot of fine silt as fall out.

Other than vacuuming to waste , is there a battery operated unit, I can attach to my pool pole that had a fine enough filter so it will remove this? My Dolphin Nautilus CC Plus with fine filters does not do a good enough job.

thanks


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Re: Fine Fall Out Removal

Postby Teapot1 » Fri 03 Sep, 2021 02:12

I dont believe there is. The closest I have used is the pool blaster max with the fine filter cloth bag. A clarifyer like jolly gell helps trap fine stuff but so does reducing the pump speed on filtration.
Changing filter media to Dr Drydens AFM ng, note ng = new generation, this filters to 1micron and with flocculent can go to 0.1micron with the correct flow rate. Big pumps on small filters and pressures over 5psi result in poor filtration and wasted electricity also CO2 unnecessarily produced from providing the electricity.
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Re: Fine Fall Out Removal

Postby jsf721 » Fri 03 Sep, 2021 05:20

I’ve got a 36 DE filter.
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Re: Fine Fall Out Removal

Postby Teapot1 » Fri 03 Sep, 2021 07:53

Flow, pressure?
I know that wasn't your first point but asside from the poolblaster, stiring up the water with your robot and letting the DE do its job, sadly you cant use flocculent so you need time and 24h filtration.
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Re: Fine Fall Out Removal

Postby jsf721 » Fri 03 Sep, 2021 12:42

After Backwash the pressure is about 18, it jumps to 24 after about 3-4 hrs of filtering.

This weekend I will vac to waste and open filter, remove the grids and wash them out .

Hopefully that will last until early October when I close.


Teapot1 wrote:Flow, pressure?
I know that wasn't your first point but asside from the poolblaster, stiring up the water with your robot and letting the DE do its job, sadly you cant use flocculent so you need time and 24h filtration.
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Re: Fine Fall Out Removal

Postby Teapot1 » Fri 03 Sep, 2021 15:16

jsf721 wrote:After Backwash the pressure is about 18, it jumps to 24 after about 3-4 hrs of filtering.



You could sve 80-90% of your electricity bill for the pool with a speed controller on that pump. Most of that pressure is just dynamic head friction you dont need it.
Although I do have a sand filter with AFM glass my filter pressure is 0.5PSI you notice a drop in flow when the filter is clogging up. I only use 65 watts to power my pump, mind you I designed the system with a flooded pump so as to not waste energy lifting the water out of the pool.
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Re: Fine Fall Out Removal

Postby jsf721 » Wed 08 Sep, 2021 15:18

Cleaned the filter this morning
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Re: Fine Fall Out Removal

Postby jsf721 » Wed 15 Sep, 2021 12:36

Vacuuming to waste is the only way to remove it that I have found. Would love to find a used (advantage pool vac) on sale or marketplace for cheap. My pool dumps so much water vacuuming the whole thing to waste.
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Re: Fine Fall Out Removal

Postby Teapot1 » Thu 16 Sep, 2021 01:08

If you had a speed controller on the pump you could reduce the speed sufficiently to remove the dirt but not waste as much water.
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Re: Fine Fall Out Removal

Postby jsf721 » Fri 17 Sep, 2021 08:51

Is a speed controller an add on option or do you need to replace the whole pump?

Teapot1 wrote:If you had a speed controller on the pump you could reduce the speed sufficiently to remove the dirt but not waste as much water.
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Re: Fine Fall Out Removal

Postby Denniswiseman » Fri 17 Sep, 2021 11:08

It's an addon option although you can get it included in a pump

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