pool dust solved, A thanks will do!

Algae problems in swimming pool water.
Green (cloudy) water or slimy pool walls.
Black algae. Mustard algae. Pink or white pool mold.
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Re: pool dust solved, A thanks will do!

Postby Alecdavis » Sun 18 Jun, 2017 15:40

Hi,I have an Intex 15x 42 with a cheap vacuum....it works well, however do you have a procedure you go through in order to get it working ? Often takes me 15 minutes to get it sucking...thanks advance ,alec


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Re: pool dust solved, A thanks will do!

Postby Denniswiseman » Sun 18 Jun, 2017 16:33

Hi Alec
Fill the hose with water from a return jet keep it under water while connecting to the vacuum, if you have to take it out of the water to connect, seal the end with your hand
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Re: pool dust solved, A thanks will do!

Postby Guest » Fri 07 Jul, 2017 08:53

Thank you a million times over ! We put the sock on last night and it's dang near perfect this morning! I was going crazy!! So glad I came across this post!
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Re: pool dust solved, A thanks will do!

Postby anncaron » Thu 13 Jul, 2017 07:51

Hi. I have struggled with this problem for years and am glad to see it's nothing that I'm doing wrong! I tried the white sock on the return hose last night but water kept dripping from the sock. I have an aboveground pool. Where exactly am I supposed to put the sock?
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Re: pool dust solved, A thanks will do!

Postby HAMZAH2019 » Mon 24 Jun, 2019 16:31

THANKS ALOT MAN (GOOD THINKING)
I am having the same problem small particles return back to the pool after cleaning the pool (at the end of the process) . I replaced the sand with glass type (expensive) . Problem still. I think my problem is in the pump (too powerful) for the filter 20 inch. I tried your way and i hope it will solve my problem. Thanks alot
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Re: pool dust solved, A thanks will do!

Postby Teapot » Mon 24 Jun, 2019 23:19

Which glass, they are not all created equal?
Yes quite common to see big pump, small filter which is counter productive and cost you a lot more in electricity. What pump and filter have you got?
Skimmer socks can help and I use a cotton Tea towel or towel scrunched up in the skimmer basket.
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Re: pool dust solved, A thanks will do!

Postby HAMZAH2019 » Tue 25 Jun, 2019 09:34

My pool is 5mx3m . My filter is 19 or 20inch swim pro vl-240T hayward underdrain assy comes in one big peice (not finger type) and a 1&1/2 horse power hayward pump. Two months ago i replaced the old sand with new one from nature works (glass sand) works for 6 years and can be washed. I also changed pool water. And very fine sand returns to pool every time i clean the pool . Where is the problem?
http://www.hayward-indonesia.com/2015/0 ... d.html?m=1
I remember that last time i opened the filter to replace the sand , i foud very fine mud at the bottom of the filter tank just like the one returns to the pool. !!!!!
Thanks for help
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Re: pool dust solved, A thanks will do!

Postby Teapot » Tue 25 Jun, 2019 16:38

Yes big pump small filter, although the filter isn't too small for your pool, the pump is ridiculously powerful at 1 1/2hp. That achieves nothing but a bigger electric bill and actually worse filtration because you are driving dirt through the filter media. As you found before lots of fine silt left in the filter despite 1 1/2 hp pump trying to drive the dirt out and the "balanced flow block"

I don't believe the block or any of the other nonsense written by Hayward is any better or worse than laterals (fingers) I have opened too many customers filters and maintain most domestic filters backwash really badly. I recommend a filter strip down, clean of the media and re-fit every couple of years at worst, best each season if the backwash is bad and I have seen some bad backwash.

I am currently building my own filter with the main purpose of the best backwash. yes we can remove a lot of fine particles but if we can't backwash the filters clean we are just heading for more issues.

Back to you, you could easily manage on a 1/2hp pump or get a variable speed control, it would pay for itself in no time and give you better filtration as you can adjust the flow.
What does your pressure gauge read?
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Re: pool dust solved, A thanks will do!

Postby HAMZAH2019 » Fri 12 Jul, 2019 23:20

Problem solved completely by replacing the old pump with 3/4 hp pump . Now all ok .

Thanks alot

Best regards
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Re: pool dust solved, A thanks will do!

Postby Teapot » Sat 13 Jul, 2019 01:51

That's better and if you added a speed controller it could go better still. You don't need much power to filter well, you just need the power for the backwash. The speed controller would pay for itself in a year through savings on electricity and give you better quality water, even better than you get now. That reduces the work chlorine has to do which saves more money.
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Re: pool dust solved, A thanks will do!

Postby New2Pool » Sun 21 Jul, 2019 21:20

Hi guys, new here. I have a very similar issue. I live in Ontario, Canada. Pool is less than 1 year old. I noticed over last month or so, I’m getting these lines of what I thought was “dirt” or “sand”. The first few times, I just vacuumed in filter mode. I only run the pump overnight. I see that during the day, when pump is off, water is clear and no “dirt” or “sand”. In the morning, there’s always the dirt/sand IN THE SAME SPOTS!!
I asked the pool store what it could be and they said that if it “poofs” up as the brush hits it, then it’s mustard algae. They said to vacuum to waste, which I did quite a few times. but as soon as pump is turned on, I see the same deposits (stairs, shallow, and deep end - nothing in the middle. We only have 1 return under the skimmer. I even left my pump off for a while 24hrs, and the water was sooo clear. Within 10 min of turning pump on, the dirt/sand started to reappear.
Is there something wrong with my sand filter? Laterals?

Sorry for the ramble, I’d appreciate any insight!
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Re: pool dust solved, A thanks will do!

Postby Teapot » Mon 22 Jul, 2019 00:49

Most pools are settling tanks, people spend money on robots and gizmos of all sorts. The pool is wonderfully clean and clear......... until they clean it, after which it's slightly hazy. Then switch everything off an the dirt settles once again.

Sadly the majority of pools have too larger pumps and too smaller filters. That leads to dirt breakthrough. Depending on the filter type to a lesser or greater extent.
Some sand only catches particles around 20 microns, AFM glass from Dryden Aqua ( Activate) 4-5 microns when used correctly. DE 1-2 microns when used correctly, filter cartridges depends on the cartridge but generally 10 microns.
To capture really fine dust you can use a flocculant or Jollygel but only in sand filters and glass, it ruins the others and in the case of Dr Dryden's glass that can filter sub micron particles.
I have put this fine dust under a microscope and it's incredibly fine, the only reason you can see it is there's a lot of it.
Try scrunching up your best cotton towel and put it in the skimmer when you vacuum.

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