Mother of all algae problems

[Colino]

I went and did it anyway, the shallow third of the pool is completely scooped at the bottom, save for sand and small rocks I can't pick up. The semi deep third of the pool, is about halfway done. As for the slope and the deep end, that'll take a longer time. Much longer time.

[Guest]

Go take a shower now!

As far as being safe??? I know I wouldn't do it!
EEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWW!

Does the pump work? I thought I read that you had juice? If so, change out the sand and start that baby up!

[Backglass]

BG

Is it healthy for me to detach my net from the pole and go down under my self and start scooping?

NO. Unless you are in a wet suit, it is not safe to swim/bathe/wade/scoop in whatsoever and even then not a good idea. Please stop doing it before you get sick.

Again, I admire your resolve but until you get water circulating & filtering you are swimming against the current.

Have you checked out Craig's list for your area? What IS your area and I will do it for you!

[Colino]

Sorry, but I already completely scooped the shallow and semi deep sections.
All done! Just a few flyaway pine needles, sand, and a couple of roofing nails remaining. Done by my standard, I just want see through water. I got a pool scrub, and did the steps. It's quite hard to brush though, so I did it in the water.

I'm going to attempt the deep side out of the water, and come school time, I'll buy bleach, when I get paid for lunch!

My area is houston, but I can wait to get a new sand/pump!
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[Colinod]

Man I gotta log in so I can edit!

But the auto login feature doesn't work.

Anyway, I meant to say new sand filter/pump.

I also found out my pool ph is 7.4, but I didn't
get a test kit with the brush. Is pool sample analysis free at any place?

And Pool user, my pump does not work! the motor is good, but yesterday I primed the pump, and ran it with the filter cap off (Both the skimmer and main drain valves were open). I didn't see water rush into the filter, though it does stir around.

Though I won't know for sure unless I isolate the pump from its surrounding plumbing and make sure it can suck up a sample of water.

[Colinod]

The pump definately does work. I primed it real good and made sure both valves were really open. took about a gallon of water in all to prime it.

The pump then procceeded to dump the priming water into the tank, the priming water only. The pipes are definately clogged with something then. When I push/pulled up the valve, played with it a little, some water started to pour out of the booster pump. It wasn't pressurized (Or filtered, it poured a blade of grass onto my palm) though, so I attempted to turn it on. The motor to the booster pump was seized or something.

[Backglass]

OK...I searched the Houston Craig's List for you.

HERE is a pump & filter for $160 in Deer Park. The filter is undersized for your pool and the pump is for an above ground pump so you might have some priming issues...but it's not a bad deal. You could probably show up with $125 cash and get them both.

HERE is a cartridge filter & pump for $125 in Richmond. Older...again show up with cash and get a deal.

HERE is a catridge filter for $50 with a free chlorinator. No pump though.

HERE is a 2hp pump for $100 in Clear Lake.

HERE is a 3/4hp pump for $60 in Magnoilia.

[mr_clean]

just remember one important thing about pump size before you buy one.

check your pipe size and count your return lines in pool becuase:

if you only have 1 1/2'' pipes and your pump is to big it will cavatate meaning only fill halfway in pumpbasket and this can lead to burning out pump/motor and other problems.

count your return lines and measure pipe size I realize your going with older used equipment but still an issue.

for used:
if it's 2'' pipe normally more return lines 3 or more it can use bigger pump 1 1/2 to 2hp, but if only 2 or less return lines 1hp at most

with 1 1/2'' pipe 3 or more return lines max 1hp, 2 or less 3/4hp or 1/2hp. This is only with used. With new you have to shrink taking in these factors.

Backglass my hat is off to you helping this person by going above and beyond the call of duty:lol:

[Colinod]

I didn't realize how important inlet pipe size was. So what is the max pump inlet PVC pipe size? I don't want to reduce pressure too much.

[mr_clean]

your pipe size will 1 1/2" round or 2" round.

the cavatation problem can happen when to much flow do to power from pump/motor can not circulate back fast enough.

[Colinod]

So i'm home free if I have one 2" pipe coming from a single hole in the deep end?

What size should my return line be? I'm thinking of 4 of them, just pouring in water, unless you think jets can be acheived without a booster pump.

[mr_clean]

Ok, so your main pump works and primes and your booster pump does not.

Now when you run main it should suck from skimmer go to main pump through booster then to filter then to heater if you have one then to return line or lines.

when you have a booster pump it makes me think you have spa with pool or it was for old pool cleaner.

I see many pools that never use booster pump and still function. Look at booster make sure pump lid has o-ring, grease it prime it, just add water.

Then run main pump and see what happens when running for a few mins.

what happens?

where is water going? does filter pressure seem to just buildup? is water making it to filter?

If no heater and water makes it to filter, unhook return pipe from filter and get a air compressor from someone with a nozzle that brows air. Use a old shirt and rap around nozzle and put into pipe and blow air and see what happens.

How far down is the return line or lines under water? If you can reach them/see them take a metal coat hanger and straighten out and poke in side return/'s. Do you feel or pull anything out?

also the valve you talked about where is it? in between what? whats it seem to do? Just open and close line?

[Colino]

The valve is what should send dirty water to backwash, waste, filter, etc. What valve a filter had before the advent of the multi-port valves.

My valve only seems to let me choose whether to send pumped water to backwash or normally filter.

I thought the booster pump was for the return jets...?
The pool has 5+ return jets, which are about 2-3 feet below the surface.


When I prime the main pump, the water goes into the filter NOT through the top pipe, but through the bottom, no matter what position the push/pull-valve is in. I observe this because the water sitting at the bottom of the filter stirs around.

The filter doesn't have pressure that I know of. Water doesnt flow in agressively, and the little hose coming from the filter feed line to the pressure gauge is detached, and it doesn't reattach.

I have run the mianpump for one minute at a time, and the water level in the pump basket falls below the feed lines.

[mr_clean]

keep the water flow going to filter not backwash & water entering from bottom pipe is normal. This should then not backwash.

You say when you prime pump and run, the water goes down? this can be normal for a few mins.

checking little things:
is pool level correct so skimmer does not suck air?
When pump lid is off do you see O-ring underneath around it.
if yes lube it up alot before putting back on, if no its sucking air, buy one there cheap.
add water run pump for a few mins and see if prime seems to get better, even if return lines are clogged filter should fillup even with filter top off.

[Colino]

The pool's full credits to tropical storm Erin.

I really didn't think about the seal...

I'll try that again.