Added calcium carbonate instead of calcium chloride and need help badly

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Added calcium carbonate instead of calcium chloride and need help badly

Postby thetech101 » Tue 16 May, 2017 22:09

As the title says I added the wrong chemical and my water turned cloudy and I'm hoping someone can tell what thus stuff is gonna do and how to remove it or work with it and this is in a 10000 gallon above ground zodiac pool

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Re: Added calcium carbonate instead of calcium chloride and need help badly

Postby Denniswiseman » Wed 17 May, 2017 04:46

What are your your numbers
FC:
CC:
pH:
TA:
CH:
CYA:
Pool chemicals:
Depending on your pool construction (vinyl) and numbers excessive calcium will form as scale on your pool surface, a drain and refill is the only way of reducing it if necessary
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Re: RE: Re: Added calcium carbonate instead of calcium chloride and need help badly

Postby thetech101 » Wed 17 May, 2017 09:05

Denniswiseman wrote:What are your your numbers
FC:
CC:
pH:
TA:
CH:
CYA:
Pool chemicals:
Depending on your pool construction (vinyl) and numbers excessive calcium will form as scale on your pool surface, a drain and refill is the only way of reducing it if necessary
Check out Pool Levels

I can get my numbers if needed but I saw something saying I could use calcium carbonate instead of calcium chloride. Is this true? And I'm trying to raise my hardness from 70 ppm to a low but good number. Also my alkalinity was at 70 ppm before I added the calcium.

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Re: Added calcium carbonate instead of calcium chloride and need help badly

Postby Denniswiseman » Wed 17 May, 2017 10:03

You really need to get your numbers as you don't know how much to add or reduce to get where you want it
Pool stores (are in the business of selling) and strips are widely inaccurate you are better of having a decent test kit
In a vinyl pool you don't have to worry about low CH only high. Your TA should be fine at 70 providing you have a stable pH
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Re: RE: Re: Added calcium carbonate instead of calcium chloride and need help badly

Postby thetech101 » Wed 17 May, 2017 10:20

Denniswiseman wrote:You really need to get your numbers as you don't know how much to add or reduce to get where you want it
Pool stores (are in the business of selling) and strips are widely inaccurate you are better of having a decent test kit
In a vinyl pool you don't have to worry about low CH only high. Your TA should be fine at 70 providing you have a stable pH

I know all about pool stores selling so I bought the best Taylor test kit and in the manual and online it's says a low ch will east metal and I believe there is metal in the filtration system and some on my ladder in the pool. So I'm wondering if carbonate that I already bought, is correct for raising ch just like chloride?

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Re: Added calcium carbonate instead of calcium chloride and need help badly

Postby Denniswiseman » Wed 17 May, 2017 10:51

I beleive that calcium carbonate is what gets deposited on the pool surface and other. Vinyl pools don't need it
Low calcium will be really bad on concrete / plaster / grout, I don't see metal in the Taylor test kit manual regarding calcium hardness
Check out this post regarding https://www.troublefreepool.com/threads ... -really-do
If you are happy to leave the calcium carbonate in the pool OK but do use your Taylor test kit to check your numbers
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Re: RE: Re: Added calcium carbonate instead of calcium chloride and need help badly

Postby thetech101 » Wed 17 May, 2017 10:54

Denniswiseman wrote:I beleive that calcium carbonate is what gets deposited on the pool surface and other. Vinyl pools don't need it
Low calcium will be really bad on concrete / plaster / grout, I don't see metal in the Taylor test kit manual regarding calcium hardness
Check out this post regarding https://www.troublefreepool.com/threads ... -really-do
If you are happy to leave the calcium carbonate in the pool OK but do use your Taylor test kit to check your numbers

Is it OK to leave the carbonate in there?

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Re: Added calcium carbonate instead of calcium chloride and need help badly

Postby Denniswiseman » Wed 17 May, 2017 15:14

Check your numbers and if the are excessive, drain some water
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Re: Added calcium carbonate instead of calcium chloride and need help badly

Postby thetech101 » Wed 17 May, 2017 15:36

I'll get them later this afternoon

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Re: Added calcium carbonate instead of calcium chloride and need help badly

Postby thetech101 » Fri 19 May, 2017 19:01

I got busy the last few days but if they matter the numbers are 6.0 ppm free chlorine, 4.0 ppm combined, pH is 7.5, alkalinity is 80 ppm which used to be 70 ppm before the calcium carbonate, ch is 80 ppm which was also 70 ppm and you can see why I wanna raise it and these numbers were after I vacuum up the pile of calcium carbonate on the bottom which again turned my pool cloudy enough to be only like a half foot visibility in full sunshine

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Re: Added calcium carbonate instead of calcium chloride and need help badly

Postby thetech101 » Fri 19 May, 2017 19:02

Also the numbers are from today

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Re: Added calcium carbonate instead of calcium chloride and need help badly

Postby Denniswiseman » Sat 20 May, 2017 03:21

thetech101 wrote:I got busy the last few days but if they matter the numbers are 6.0 ppm free chlorine, 4.0 ppm combined, pH is 7.5, alkalinity is 80 ppm which used to be 70 ppm before the calcium carbonate, ch is 80 ppm which was also 70 ppm and you can see why I wanna raise it and these numbers were after I vacuum up the pile of calcium carbonate on the bottom which again turned my pool cloudy enough to be only like a half foot visibility in full sunshine

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I would suggest that you wait for the carbonate to settle again and vacuum to waste
Your pH and TA are fine
You didn't give CYA number so I can't tell you whether it is OK as suggested for Chlorine / CYA Chart, please check out Pool Levels as well
Your CC is excessive and you will need to Slam
Plenty to get on with, regular testing helps keep your pool in pristine condition
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Re: Added calcium carbonate instead of calcium chloride and need help badly

Postby thetech101 » Sat 20 May, 2017 11:05

I haven't added any cya and nothing shows up, I plan to add some eventually.

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Re: Added calcium carbonate instead of calcium chloride and need help badly

Postby Denniswiseman » Sun 21 May, 2017 02:51

Are you using liquid chlorine to chlorinate because if you are using pucks they will add CYA
For every 10 ppm Free Chlorine (FC) added by Trichlor, it also increases Cyanuric Acid (CYA) by 6 ppm.
For every 10 ppm FC added by Dichlor, it also increases CYA by 9 ppm.
For every 10 ppm FC added by Cal-Hypo, it also increases Calcium Hardness (CH) by at least 7 ppm
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Re: Added calcium carbonate instead of calcium chloride and need help badly

Postby thetech101 » Sun 21 May, 2017 08:07

I think I haven't had the tablets in there long enough to get the cya up, I used shock to get the chlorine started

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