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Re: Just Purchased Project - Delaware

Postby mknmike » Mon 12 Jul, 2021 12:44

So last night I probably dumped about a quart of DE in my pool like a clown. I contacted my pool guy, and he tested the water and sent me these notes:

Ok. I just tested for ph and chlorine. I ran out of the alkalinity test (i use a liquid test).
Ph was 7.0. And chlorine was very low.

(I mentioned that I discovered we are using Bromine tablets and a “Brominator”.

I’ll add 3 lbs of the shock.
And and add my own ph rise and alkalinity. I’ll leave the rest with you.

(I mentioned that the chlorine seemed to be one level that I was able to get into the ok zone, and it seemed be getting higher and shut off the brominator.)

Ok. I’ll turned the brominator on to 2
Added one lb of shock. 2.5 lbs of ph rise and 5 lbs of the alkalinity plus.
I left the rest of the ph and alkalinity in the garage



So I’m excited to see where everything ends ups. It sounds like the alkalinity / PH plus is something that will help us keep the PH and Chlorine balanced and not all peaks and valleys.

I have so much to learn.


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Just Purchased Project - Delaware

Postby mknmike » Mon 12 Jul, 2021 12:46

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Postby mknmike » Tue 13 Jul, 2021 17:47

I raised the level to see just how high the pool will continue holding water. I talked to my pool guy about potentially slapping the rest of the tile on as a temporary fix to kick the $10-18,000 down the road a bit more. It’s a real possibility.

He has also been coming by trying to get my PH and alkalinity up.

This is a Bromine pool, or at least it’s got a brominator and bunch of tablets in a bucket labeled bromine. So it sounds like I stick with that even though I can shock it with Chlorine. I’m learning.

Very pleased with how it’s looking.

I scrubbed the walls a little today. I was in the water doing so, and it felt so good on this hot day.

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Postby mknmike » Fri 16 Jul, 2021 10:44

Pool is able to be enjoyed with usable bromine chemical levels, but…


I keep forgetting and leaving the waste valve of fill (hose) valve open like an idiot. I need a smarter system or at least knobs that aren’t gate valve knobs that don’t let me know they are open by just looking at them.

There are 17-19 missing tiles on the one end of the pool and various places water can clearly get behind the tile. I am going to do a temporary fix to not have to drain the pool in peak season. My pool guy is awesome and doesn’t seem to have a philosophical issue with doing the temporary fix. We need to do it to protect the pool though, and it also sucks when chunks of plaster (or god forbid concrete) falls into the pool with the splashing and enjoyment. [img]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210716/7def654e25d04aded0514198257a840b.jpg[/img]

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I need to have a moment of silence for our frog that somehow ended up in the pre-pump basket. :(
I don’t think that I sucked him off the floor or left the skimmer basket off. So maybe he got past the grid on the side intake pipe. I’m guessing there was really nothing we could have done about that besides maybe not running the pump at night (when I assume it put less burden on the grid), or maybe adding a larger diffuser with smaller holes on the side intake.

Oh. My flapper also gets stuck on the skimmer and I need to fix that problem. It causes air to get sucked in when. The skimmer runs. That sucks, pun intended.
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Re: Just Purchased Project - Delaware

Postby mknmike » Wed 21 Jul, 2021 18:46

Lawn guys on the second mow for some reason blew tons of leaves and debris into the pool today. I guess this is one way to make sure I’m filtering the water well. It’s going to take a while for this to be cleaned up. The fence is shedding paint, and lots of the black paint chips are all over the bottom. I will see what the robot can handle before getting out the vacuum for the bottom.
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Postby mknmike » Fri 20 May, 2022 05:58

I had my pool guy help close the pool in the fall. (He went to high school with me and worked with his dad’s business, but his dad sadly died at the beginning of COVID, so he’s working mostly alone now, trying to wind down the business to spend more time with his kids). He had a helper and they sucked out about 2 feet of water, pulled all the plugs, and put some anti-freeze (the correct kind I’m sure) into some of the pipes and skimmer bucket.

While the pool was closed, I learned that I should probably pressure wash the cover to keep it from clogging and sagging (which I believe makes it collect more debris).

Anyway, I opened the pool by myself this year. It was dirtier than I’d expected, but seemingly a two-day process instead of a two week process this time. Bromine went up from under $250 a bucket to nearly $350 I bucket I think. Ouch. I bought one bucket, but wonder if maybe it’s more expensive at pool-opening time, or this is just simply inflation at work.

While it was generally smoother than last year for sure, I did have some self-inflicted drama though.

1) The garage floor drain is where the waste water from my triton valve goes. There’s a valve on some copper piping that heads to the garage floor drain. Since this isn’t sewage, it apparently heads into the house sewer line, but connects on the basement floor side of the floor drain trap. Apparently the basement floor drain trap was half-full of debris, effectively reducing its pipe size. So when I put full-speed water from the garage through it, the water came up out of the drain. Total mess, including all the leaf debris from the pool filter back-flush. And of course my tenant’s clothes and stuff was directly on the floor in the laundry room where this all happened.

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I signed up for $8/mo sewer line protection, and this all got cleared and is not a problem when I back-flush now. But it didn’t end there.

2) At 2:30 pm Thursday, I left TWO garden hoses filling the pool so I could get the skimmer in action, and left asking my tenants assistant to turn off the water when she left. Like I do, she forgot, as I always do, until I asked at 5:45 pm. I finally shut off the water at 6 pm. It was half-way up the bricks. So I’m sure it was going into the basement at that point, as it always seems to do when it gets about 2/3 up the tile. I’m going to take a walk over there to check out where the level stopped falling (with water surely going into the basement all-the-while). It’s interesting that the roof rainwater can dump onto the brick patio just a few more feet to the left, but water from the pool makes it into the basement. Maybe ripping up the brick patio is in my near future.

3) The third thing that I need to address is the pool piping setup. I’m entering a “do only what absolutely must be done” phase financially, but I know that the triton valve isn’t reliable. I would think that when I have only one of two inputs open, the other closed, and the valve set to “waste”, I’d expect all the water to go out the drain, and not back into the pool. But I know this isn’t happening because when vacuuming the bottom of the pool if it’s dirt, I will quickly get brown clouds out the jet on the side of the pool. Also, the copper from the garden-hose inlet (which I can use to supply water to the garage with a washing-machine hose and a garden hose from the house) is starting to leak at one of the sweat fittings). I understand the pool pump might create more pressure than water pressure. So maybe I better be really careful to not have this connected with water running, or I could contaminate drinking water with pool water. Maybe a check valve is going to be needed in the long term.

Over the winter, I got a water line and a natural gas line run to the garage. It’s good to know that’s there for when it’s time to get everything piped correctly.

I also learned that the rainwater line from the garage can’t be used for sewage unless I change the way it ties into the basement floor drain. I might want to do that to prevent the back-flush-floor-drain-overflow situation anyway.

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