HELP! Sand in the pool

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HELP! Sand in the pool

Postby Crewey » Tue 07 May, 2013 13:34

Hi Guys, I am new to this forum, but I hope somebody can help. Last season I noticed sand being put into the pool by the filter (Tagelus 40). So this weekend I emptied all of the old sand out and inspected the radials. They are all ok, as is the main pipe. I then put new sand into the filter and put everything back together. To my horror, this morning I find that the pool is full of sand again! I can't believe it. The manual says that either a radial is broken (which it isn't) or the flow rate is too high. The flow rate has always been the same and I'm not sure how to reduce it (unless I half close one of the flow valves). Could somebody please advise as we will probably only get about 4 days of sun this year and I'd like to have a swim!
Thanks in anticipation

Dave
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HELP! Sand in the pool

Postby CGPoolman » Thu 09 May, 2013 09:17

Crewey,

If you are sure nothing is cracked/damaged inside the filter, check the multiport valve. With the system off, take the screws off the valve lid and have a look inside. There is a "Wagon Wheel" shaped gasket in there. If the gasket is bad, it could cause sand to leak thru and blow back into the pool.

-CG
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HELP! Sand in the pool

Postby Denniswiseman » Fri 10 May, 2013 06:57

I had the exact symptoms replacing the spider gasket in the multiport valve cured it for me
Although it looked OK
Crewey
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HELP! Sand in the pool

Postby Crewey » Tue 14 May, 2013 05:31

Thanks Guys, I'll give that a try. Watch this space!
Dave
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HELP! Sand in the pool

Postby Crewey » Sun 26 May, 2013 09:28

Hi Guys...an update!!! I checked the spider gasket, which looked ok. However, just to be on the safe side I applied gasket sealer to the whole of the gasket. Still getting sand in the pool. So I emptied the sand out of the filter again to re-check the laterals. They are all fine and undamaged. I am at a loss now as to how ro proceed! Any advice would be welcome. If I need to buy the part with the gasket on, what is it called and does anybody know where I might get one in the UK?
To top it all off, my Purex Islander Electric pool heater is tripping out every time I try to turn it on!!!! I think I'll go down the beach and swim in the sea!

Dave
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HELP! Sand in the pool

Postby Denniswiseman » Fri 31 May, 2013 05:24

Hi

My gasket looked OK but it wasn't. My advice is change it any way

Did you look at the correct part. My spider gasket is 8mm thick 135mm wide with 5 sections and a hole in the middle, it fits in a recess on the bottom of the multiport valve

You May have to Google for the part however my filter is made in South Africa and I find it easier and cheaper to buy direct from them I also live in the UK
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HELP! Sand in the pool

Postby Crewey » Fri 31 May, 2013 18:32

Thanks Dennis, I'll Google it and try to find one. Much appreciated
Dave
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HELP! Sand in the pool

Postby Denniswiseman » Sat 01 Jun, 2013 06:16

I Have been helped many a time on this forum and am happy to help also

When my sand came through I did the same as you even replaced the laterals after I broke a fitting getting the sand out. It was only when my multiport valve leaked from the top and I changed the gasket that the sand stopped. More by luck than judgement. Hope it all woks out fine for you
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HELP! Sand in the pool

Postby Crewey » Sun 02 Jun, 2013 04:17

Thanks Dennis, I have found somebody in the UK that sells them (Dolphin Pools), but I am not sure how to measure it! Mine is 7" across, but theirs state 19"-24"...confused.com!
I'll get this sorted then just the pool heater to sort...Summer's gonna be over!!!
Cheers mate
Dave
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HELP! Sand in the pool

Postby Denniswiseman » Thu 06 Jun, 2013 08:09

Hi Dave

I've been away for a few days hence the delay in getting back

That doesn't sound like a spider gasket as it fits into the multiport valve. You may want to speak or refer them to this link (look at the last item)
http://www.aquafayre.co.uk/superbasket/ ... +and+Atika
That one is about 5 1/4 across
Once you check that it is the correct one you can search for the part number

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