Bleach

Algae problems in swimming pool water.
Green (cloudy) water or slimy pool walls.
Black algae. Mustard algae. Pink or white pool mold.
CHAR

Bleach

Postby CHAR » Wed 16 Jun, 2010 08:11

HEY, WHEN SHOCKING YOUR POOL WITH THE BLEACH DO YOU RECIRC OR FILTER ?


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Postby chem geek » Wed 16 Jun, 2010 12:50

You keep it on filter. You don't normally need to shock the pool (i.e. non weekly shocking) unless there is a problem. If you are shocking due to algae, then you want the dead algae to get caught in the filter. Please read the Pool School for more info on Defeating Algae and on how to Shock Your Pool. Shocking is not a one time event but a sustained and maintained higher level of chlorine.
kgiron

Bleach

Postby kgiron » Sun 29 May, 2011 21:58

I have been using bleach, borax and acid in my pool for several years and I have less problems than when I used the regular pool chemicals. The pool companies make more money off of the pool chemicals so they want you to buy these products and keep buying these products and more products. Regular household bleach works great!
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Bleach

Postby pool owner 2 » Mon 01 Aug, 2011 17:47

I am womdering if the regular bleach is harmful to a vinyl pool? I keep hearing it is ok to use but am not sure.
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Postby chem geek » Tue 02 Aug, 2011 12:34

You need to be careful adding any concentrated chemical to any pool, but particularly acid and chlorine to a vinyl pool. You should add the bleach slowly over a return flow (in the deep end, if there is one) with the pump running and when you are done lightly brush the side and bottom of the pool to ensure thorough mixing. Once mixed, ALL sources of chlorine produce IDENTICAL chlorine in the pool. The only differences are in what else they add to the pool.

There was a time years ago where we heard from a couple of service people who swore that bleach thinned liners or bleached them or made them wear out, etc. Though improper dosing that would let bleach pool near the bottom would obviously be a problem (that can easily be mitigated as described above), they nevertheless claimed that bleach was somehow different. So we've been carefully tracking the thousands of vinyl pool owners on multiple pool forums and not seen any problems with the bleach users and now it's been over 10 years that quite a few of these owners have used the BBB method (started with Ben Powell of The PoolForum and PoolSolutions).
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Bleach

Postby Guest » Mon 29 Aug, 2011 22:33

The concentration of chlorine in one gallon of shock opposed to a gallon of bleach is very different. to get the same level of chlorine in your pool using the cheapest of bleach instead of shock you'll spend more then twice the amount. It'll also cause scaling and a huge foamy mess. Bleach has a lot of in active and active ingredients not present in shock. You wouldn't wash your clothes with shock would you?
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Bleach

Postby Guest » Wed 31 Aug, 2011 08:55

please help us with algae problem. New Pool owners. got algae. kept bringing water into pool store for analysis. Last trip store told us to empty pool. We also read never to empty pool. During Irene we had no power to run filter for 2 and a half days. Algae got worse. Called new poolstore. Told to add 1 gallon bleach for fiberglass 5800 gal. pool. He said it should look better in 3 hrs. waiting to see. We have a cartridge filter we we wash every 2 or 3 days. Any hints or suggestions you might offer. Thanks Judy
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Postby chem geek » Wed 31 Aug, 2011 21:31

Pool User wrote:The concentration of chlorine in one gallon of shock opposed to a gallon of bleach is very different. to get the same level of chlorine in your pool using the cheapest of bleach instead of shock you'll spend more then twice the amount. It'll also cause scaling and a huge foamy mess. Bleach has a lot of in active and active ingredients not present in shock. You wouldn't wash your clothes with shock would you?

This is simply not true of quality bleach -- I'm not talking about the off-brand regular bleach that is often 3% or less chlorine and I'm not talking about the "outdoor" or "splash-less" bleaches that have thickeners and other additives in it. For Clorox regular unscented bleach and for most off-brand Ultra bleaches, these are 6% sodium hypochlorite and are the same as chlorinating liquid except for strength. In fact, Clorox regular has the lowest amount of excess lye (0.063%) than any bleach OR chlorinating liquid (usually 0.25% or more). See this post for more info on bleach and other grocery/hardware store equivalent of pool products.

There are tens of thousands of pool owners on multiple pool forums who use bleach or chlorinating liquid and they choose based on pricing and convenience and never have any problems with them so long as they use the 6% regular (off-brand Ultra) unscented bleaches. Please stop spreading misinformation.
Will_marx

Bleach

Postby Will_marx » Fri 09 Sep, 2011 11:59

Hi Bleach, are you sure you are not a pro? Good knowledge and easy to read explanation. I am in the business and couldn't do a better post my self. Just for the record I do NOT use bleach in any of my costumers pools.
Stretch

Bleach

Postby Stretch » Wed 14 Dec, 2011 00:27

Liner problem! Above ground pool. Doughboy pool. Deep end. Expandable liner. PROBLEM: Liner is faded and wrinkled allover bottom of pool. Liner only 3 yrs old. I use dichlor, bicarbonate, soda ash and 3" chlorine tabs for pool. I have always diluted everything I add directly to pool. Average weekly readings: Total hardness - 50 ppm. Total chlorine - 4 ppm. Free chlorine - 4 ppm. pH. - 7.2. Alkalinity - 80. Cya. - 30. Pool water is usually clean and easy to maintain balance. Pool itself is like 8-9 yrs old and rails are rusting with rust falling in pool. Why is this happening again?


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Postby chem geek » Wed 14 Dec, 2011 20:52

Is the Trichlor in a floating feeder and is that feeder sometimes parking itself near the railing? Trichlor is very acidic and can readily rust stainless steel and other metals. In fact, when I first got my pool and before I learned about BBB I used Trichlor in a floating feeder and it sometimes parked itself near some underwater stainless steel bars (used to hold on to for exercise) and the mounts closest to the Trichlor rusted.

If you are using Trichlor and Dichlor as your chlorine sources, then it is very doubtful that your CYA level is only 30 ppm. I suspect that your test kit is at fault. You should get the Taylor K-2006 or the TF-100. Have you been using granulated Trichlor? If so, then it dissolves somewhat slowly so if settled to the bottom of the pool it could fade it from the high chlorine level or cause wrinkles from the acidity. If you are using Trichlor pucks/tabs, but just dumping them into the pool not in a floating feeder, then that would clearly be a problem so I assume you aren't doing that.
Stretch

Bleach

Postby Stretch » Wed 14 Dec, 2011 23:50

For this pool I use dichlor granules(Rarely) and trichlor pucks. The pucks are actually stored in deluxe Doughboy skimmer. This pool is located in a wetter part of Hawaii. We get a lot of tradewind showers. So with that being said, I dump water nearly weekly. Perhaps that is why the cya is low. Just for info though I use Aquacheck 7 test strips made by Hach(http://www.aquachek.com). I find these reliable compared to other strips.
I have had similar experiences in the past with other expandable liner pools. I haven't got a clue why the wrinkling and fading happens to only this liner and not any of my regular liner pools(uniform depth). Help!


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Bleach

Postby Jennifer_Bolduc » Thu 29 Dec, 2011 22:41

Clorox bleach is a disinfectant. Meaning it will kill all the germs and any harmful insects that might be inside the pool. Bleach is often used to cool water tankers so i am guessing there would be no problem if you use it in the pool . :)
pourprsn

Bleach

Postby pourprsn » Mon 09 Apr, 2012 14:05

:wink:
Yes you can use bleach in your pool, Clorox regular (Sodium Hypochlorite) is best. If you go to Clorox.com there is a number you can call and they will break down how much you need to use. **Too much can deteriorate your liner so be careful. They told me 5 1/2 cups for 9000 gallons of water. (18 ft round by 52in sidewall) The phone number is also on the bottle. DO NOT use any other kind. That's what they said! Good luck and happy swimming!
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Bleach

Postby pourprsn » Mon 09 Apr, 2012 14:08

:problem:
Almost forgot-Check out Arm and Hammer Baking Soda-cheap fix for pools alkalinity and VERY safe!

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