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Completely frustrated!

Postby kristalou » Thu 28 Jun, 2007 18:38

I am probably going to sound like a complete idiot but that is probably because I am one when it comes to all of this pool stuff. I recently bought an inflatable pool 16 ft X 48 inches deep. I cannot find any directions anywhere on how to make the water safe. First of all, we have a well and that is what we used to fill it. I tested the water for clorine, alkalinity and ph and came back with 0 on everything! So I shocked it the other day and now I at least have a clorine reading. I then added PH+ to the water and now have a reading on that. The problem is now I have cloudy water! I called a hotline # and they told me to add alkalinity + (8oz every 12 hours) how long does this stuff take to work? I really need help figuring all of this chemical stuff out. She also told me to continue using the clorine tablets at night (how much do I use) if I put it in the skimmer do I have to run the filter at all times? AAAHHHH!!! Help me please! Thanks!


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Postby dynamictiger » Fri 29 Jun, 2007 18:03

First congratulations on buying a pool it will provide you and your family with hours of fun.

It is unlikely your well water had a 0 reading for Alkalinity and pH. If this was the case the water would eat your concrete and you haven't mentioned that so it probably isn't. It is more likely you have either not tested correctly or there is some other chemical present in the water that is complexing your results.

Please redo the tests now and tell us what the results are now.
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Re: Completely frustrated!

Postby Backglass » Fri 29 Jun, 2007 20:23

kristalou wrote:I tested the water for clorine, alkalinity and ph and came back with 0 on everything!


If the ph of your pool were zero, it would literally eat the flesh from your body. :lol:

If you really want to learn about all this chemical business, you need to buy a test kit. The kind with liquid reagents, not strips. Then post your numbers and we can help you conquer your pool.
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Postby kristalou » Sat 30 Jun, 2007 09:23

I actually have a good testing kit, not the strips. I am out of town until Monday and I will check my stats when I get home. Thanks!
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Postby kristalou » Thu 05 Jul, 2007 11:56

Ok, I figured out that my alkalinity was actually high (not low like the helpline woman told me) so now after adding baking soda and alkalinity plus, my number is through the roof. I have a 15X42 vinyl pool that holds approx. 3,200 gallons of water. I just did another test and here are my results:
Clorine- 0.0 (I did shock it 2 days ago and it appears it is completely gone!)
PH 7.0
Alkalinity 430
TH 580
CY-0

Please help me! It has been 2 weeks since I have had this pool and I haven't been able to use it yet!
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Postby Backglass » Thu 05 Jul, 2007 15:47

Wow...yes your TA is very high. You need to start ona crusade of acid & aeration to get it down. Unfortunately it will take weeks, not days to get back down to normal. Alternatively since your pool is so small ( I am assuming that s a 15 foot round, 42" high pool...not a 15x42 foot pool!), you might consider draining off a foot or two of water and refilling with fresh. Assuming you use the same water you filled with the first time, you will lower the TA through dilution.

You need to add CYA. With -0- CYA on a sunny day, your pool can go from superclorinated (15) to zero in under 2 hours. :shock: Buy some CYA (aka Stabilizer) and shoot for a level of 30ppm.

Then you need to get your chlorine up to shock levels and get it to stay there for at least 24 hours. Continue to run your pump 24/7 until your pool is clear.
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Postby kristalou » Thu 05 Jul, 2007 16:10

Any suggestions as to how to get my chlorine up to shock level? I'm using the triclor 3" tablets in a floater currently. Thanks for your help!
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Postby Backglass » Thu 05 Jul, 2007 21:11

kristalou wrote:Any suggestions as to how to get my chlorine up to shock level? I'm using the triclor 3" tablets in a floater currently. Thanks for your help!


Most pool techs say you should fix the TA first. I would seriously consider draining some water and refilling fresh to get your TA down.

The triclor will add CYA slowly and chlorine of course, but you need to get to at least 10 and stay there for 24 hours to get things cleared up. The first thing you need to do is stop by the pool store, home depot, lowes or wal-mart and buy some CYA (Stabilizer). You will need around 1.5 pounds to get your CYA to 30ppm. You must do this or any chlorine you put in your pool to shock will be gone in a few hours, as you have already seen. Pour it into an old sock and tie it to your ladder...it dissolves very slowly.

THEN get some bleach. Good ole plain ultra walmart bleach (no scent or the thick kind). One gallon of 6% bleach will raise your 6000 gallon pool to exactly 10ppm of chlorine. Don't do the bleach without the CYA first though or it will just be wasted and gone in a hour. You could also buy pre-packed granular shock at the pool store if you really want to pay 4X the price for the same thing. ;)

That should get you started. :P
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Postby kristalou » Fri 06 Jul, 2007 08:30

Can I put the stabilizer in my skimmer instead of a sock? We haven't been leaving our ladder in the pool yet. Also, I have a 3,200 gallon pool not 6,000 so should I decrease the bleach (from 1 gallon) or how much should I add? Is it ok to add liquid bleach to a vinyl inflatable pool? Thanks so much for all of your help!
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Postby Backglass » Fri 06 Jul, 2007 11:32

kristalou wrote:Can I put the stabilizer in my skimmer instead of a sock? We haven't been leaving our ladder in the pool yet.


You can, but it will just clog your filter until it dissolves. The sock is the best because it dissolves very slowly. Ladder not neccesary, tie it to anything. Pool upright. Tree. Bicycle. Potted Fern. Small Child. Etc. :lol:

Or...just put the sock in your skimmer basket.

kristalou wrote:Also, I have a 3,200 gallon pool not 6,000 so should I decrease the bleach (from 1 gallon) or how much should I add?


I am confused. In your first post you said 16 foot round, 48 inches deep. Thats 6031 gallons according to Bleachcalc. Then you said 15 foot round, 42 inches deep. Bleachcalc says that 4638 gallons. You say 3200 gallons. It's your pool, so you make the choice as to what it really is. ;)
  • To raise a 6031 Gallon pool from 0 to 10ppm Chlorine - 1 Gallon, 1 Ounce of 6% Bleach.
  • To raise a 4638 Gallon pool from 0 to 10ppm Chlorine - 3 Quarts, 3 Ounces of 6% Bleach.
  • To raise a 3200 Gallon pool from 0 to 10ppm Chlorine - 2 Quarts, 4 Ounces 6% Bleach.
Take your pick! :P If your bleach is 5% these calculations will only take you to about 8.5%.

[quote[Is it ok to add liquid bleach to a vinyl inflatable pool? Thanks so much for all of your help![/quote]

Chlorine is chlorine. Granular, liquid or gas. The key is to use the correct amount and slowly pour it into your skimmer so it doesn't sit on the bottom (bleach is heavier than water). You can even dilute it with water in a bucket first for added protection. Same for granular. If you threw a pound of granular chlorine directly into your pool it would fall to the bottom and bleach it out.

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