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Postby Guest » Wed 01 Aug, 2007 03:46

I'm not dumping at random.

I was told to add the algaecide last week. It's the same that I've been putting in all along. It stains your liner if you put in too much??

And, I haven't put in ANY kind of PH chems in over a month. Therefore, it was low, according to my sticks. What will happen if you have too much PH, just out of curiosity.

I've got to get a 'real' test kit. They have those BIG bottles of sticks at the pool store, that have all the chemicals on them. Will that be better than what I've got? They're only about $20.

My Chlorine was low, too, of course. It's NEVER been higher than 'white' on my sticks, since we got the house. Except of course, when the chems first go in.

And that's adding two 3' tabs every week, and 4lbs of Shock. I've got to figure out if the BBB is better $$ wise.

I'm doing the backwash/refill because that's what ya'll told me to do!! It's the only thing I haven't done.

I still don't know how many times I need to do that. Does Anyone?

ALSO...will the chlorine tabs help me? I've got a lot of them, and as I said, I put two in for tonight. I was thinking about putting four, but didn't know if I would just be wasting them.

See...I'm new! I just don't know a lot about this stuff. But, I'm trying to learn.


I've got to get a 'real' test kit. They have those BIG bottles of sticks at the pool store, that have all the chemicals on them. Will that be better than what I've got? They're only about $20


Thanks!


Guest

Postby Guest » Wed 01 Aug, 2007 21:55

Check your CYA level. Since you've been draining and filling, we'd like to know where you are in that reguard...

Post what all your readings are in the morning and let's see where it stands.

Not treating pH regularly, or atleast keeping it in check will cause chlorine to become ineffient and not do it's job. These bodies of water can get sick and turn on you within hours, not days. (Trust me I know! Oneday I went to work with a clear pool and when I got home, it was so cloudy! We're talking 8 hours later!!! Atleast it wasn't green!) I'm concerned that your PA or something simple is *off* and that maybe what's holding you up. Your CYA might even be low now but I'm only speculating.

Sometimes, it just takes a little while and if you post #'s, we'll be of better assistance than just guessing... That's your homework!
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Postby Guest » Thu 02 Aug, 2007 02:38

I'll be back to post my readings in a bit..but here's some news.

I have Phosphates! I was told that this was why I cannot hold chlorine!

We've never been able to hold it, so I figure they've been in the whole time.

I don't know why, we don't fertilize or live near anyone who does.
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Postby bamamelena » Thu 02 Aug, 2007 14:18

Ok, here's my numbers from yesterday. Notice that the CYA level is down a lot!

HAR-118.95

TC-.92

FC-.75

BR-.90

ALK-134.76

CYA-69.86

BOR-14.55

PH-8.00

Therefore, I feel like I'm doing something right. But, finding out that I do have Phosphates in my pool, answered some questions.

We've NEVER been able to hold chlorine in our pool, since moving here in April.

Therefore, I think this may be the root of all my problems. I wouldn't have algae this bad if I had been able to hold chlorine.

Of course, I feel like I've wasted everything I've put in there, especially the chlorine.

But, lesson learned. If it starts not holding it again, I'll know to have it tested.

It looks like if you go into a pool store and say 'My pool is not holding chlorine' they would say 'Here, let me test it for phosphates.'

But, nope. Not my old store. I just kept spending buckets of money.

Anyway, I think I'm going to go out and put some off brand chlorine in this evening, and see if it holds.

At least I've learned from this experience, anyway.

Thanks again guys!
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Postby Backglass » Thu 02 Aug, 2007 16:15

You don't need phosphate out. You don't need algaecide. What you need is chlorine. Your pool wont hold because the chlorine demand is so high, it's being eaten as fast as you put it in. Again, the key is to put in the correct amount of chlorine. Your pool has approximately 14,000 gallons. With a CYA of 60, you need a minimum of 23.7ppm to shock your pool. Thats 5.5 gallons of 6% chlorine, add a gallon for 5%. Anything less wont do you any good.

You should go to Walmart and buy 10 gallons of chlorine. Put 5.5 in tonight after sundown, not during the day. Be sure the pump runs all night. Every day check your chlorine and add more to keep it UP. Run your pump and filter 24-7. Brush a lot. Watch your pressure and backwash frequently. If you do this, within a week your pool will clear AND be holding chlorine.

I know you are low on cash, but if you can't do ALL these things (big initial dose, daily additions, scrub a lot, filter 24/7), you won't clear your pool and you will have wasted your time and money.

It's like only taking half of your antibiotics. You can't do it halfway or it wont work.
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Postby Guest » Fri 03 Aug, 2007 03:12

Well, the pool has never held chlorine for more than four hours at a time, that is, never tested 'purple' for that long.

Tonight, it's tested purple for almost 12 hours.

I put in three gallons of chlorine, and more phosphate remover. Also, I put in more clarifier, to see if the algae would 'drop'.

I must be doing something right, because for the first time in over a month, my pool is clearing. You can actually see the bottom. It's cloudy, but that will go too.

I honestly feel that the phosphates did have something to do with it. Otherwise, why would my pool NEVER hold chlorine, no matter how much we put in, and then all of a sudden start?

Thanks to everyone that has helped me. I hope that this crisis is over...I know that I still have a way to go..but I can actually see progress..and it's progress, not perfection!

Thanks again!
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Postby Guest » Fri 03 Aug, 2007 03:14

The only thing I haven't been doing is running my pump 24/7. However, it is on tonight.

We've been turning it off for about six or seven hours each night..then running it the rest of the day.
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Postby Backglass » Fri 03 Aug, 2007 09:19

Anonymous wrote:Well, the pool has never held chlorine for more than four hours at a time, that is, never tested 'purple' for that long.

Tonight, it's tested purple for almost 12 hours.

I put in three gallons of chlorine, and more phosphate remover. Also, I put in more clarifier, to see if the algae would 'drop'.

I must be doing something right, because for the first time in over a month, my pool is clearing. You can actually see the bottom. It's cloudy, but that will go too.

I honestly feel that the phosphates did have something to do with it. Otherwise, why would my pool NEVER hold chlorine, no matter how much we put in, and then all of a sudden start?

Thanks to everyone that has helped me. I hope that this crisis is over...I know that I still have a way to go..but I can actually see progress..and it's progress, not perfection!

Thanks again!


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Postby Guest » Fri 03 Aug, 2007 14:37

I'm sorry that you feel that way.

I have taken and tried a lot of the things that were told to me here.

We've done the drain/fill

I've ran my pump now for two days

I've used regular granulated Chlorine

I got my CYA levels down.

I have brushed every day, twice a day.

And, maybe, some of that helped.

However, before doing anything about the phosphates, I could put any amount of chlorine, any kind, and it WOULD NOT hold, no longer than two hours.

Now, my chlorine levels have been the bright 'purple' for almost 24 hours. Also, there is no more visible green.

Therefore, I feel that the phosphates did have something to do with it, since it is holding chlorine, and it is clearing.

Maybe it was some of the other things I did, as well. But, none of the others things allowed it to hold chlorine.

I was told that my chlorine levels had to be up in order to rid the algae. I couldn't get them up at that time. Now I can.

Again, I appreciate all the help that was offered to me here. I did most everything that was suggested.

Hopefully, as I said, I'm on the other side of this, coming out.

Thanks again, and have a great weekend!
Guest

Postby Guest » Fri 03 Aug, 2007 14:41

Another thing..

Backglass, I know you think I'm not taking your advice, however, I am.

We've run the pump for two days.

I put in three gallons of chlorine last night. More will go this evening..

I'm brushing every day, twice a day.

I'm backwashing every day.

I'm doing all the things you told me to do, however, a few weeks ago, I dumped in TEN gallons of chlorine. It was gone in two hours.

I've never held chlorine for more than five hours, as long as we've owned this house. I knew that was strange, but didn't know to test for phosphates.

Just wanted to add that I am doing as Backglass said!

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